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Rant Archive Two, 5/4/99 to 5/7/99

5/7/99 - I got some responses on my quiz, naturally from the only people who might have understood it at all.  Some of them had to guess around a little, since there were several people in the organization I'm talking about at the time who were close to being that lame, but eventually everyone figured it out.  With enough pressure (i.e. if anyone at all wants to know) I'll reveal the answer.  Also, the Bonus Question generated a lot of positives, and the one or two people who did not make a secret PK really wish they had but were out of character slots.

I did get one incorrect response, which is expected considering how the only people who might possibly know the answer play on Atlantic...

I'm assuming the answer to all of those questions besides the bonus question is Kagero...heh =P

And no, I haven't made a PK character to kill Kagero.  Yet.  >=)

- Templar of Kor, Sonoma

Sorry, nope.  Kagero is very annoying, but not only would never have hidden from an outnumbered battle, but would have yelled at the other team members afterwards for not letting her kill all 5 enemies.  8P

Bored as hell, so I'll post this flamewar thread from Nuker's Domain.  The original thread can be found here.  Basically, this guy Quadre R. Winner wanted everyone to go flame Azaroth's taming board for inexplicable reasons.  (I told Az I flamed him back to defend the board, but I really just thought Quadre would be fun to taunt.)

Flame the board in my post,bloody lame rper board by Quadre posted 4/29/99 2:15:05 PM

http://www.lost-souls.org/wwwboard/wwwboard.html

WTF RP Board? Plus Msg for Nuker by Musashi posted 5/3/99 3:01:29 PM

How do ya figure that as an RP board? Az and Sili just talk about taming, taming bugs, taming skill increase, etc. Are you mad because Az killed you with a nightmare or something? Go flame Crossroads or White Stag Inn or something if you're looking for RPers. Or go flame on my board. Things are a little slow.

Oh hi Nuker. Bring back the resist/parry pages! 8P

No you lame Jap I got flamed for saying I "macro" by Quadre posted 5/4/99 8:49:15 AM

Noooooooo I was called a Lame Jap! by Musashi posted 5/4/99 12:18:04 PM

Please! You're hurting my feelings! I wither under the force of your wit! Next you'll call me an RP Lamer and threaten to kill my pixelated sprite!

Really though, you get flamed on a taming board for saying you macro, so the whole board is about RPing? Some dumbass will always jump in and whine about macroing. They're probably posting with UO Loop running in the background. Most people would just ignore them or post a flame themselves. Your feelings must be really hurt to ask for other people to go flame them for you. Embrace your feminine side. Don't be afraid to cry.  And learn to hit the NT button.

Ok this is getting interesting,My turn by Quadre posted 5/6/99 4:06:24 AM

Well I made a statement protecting KewlDoods and how macroing is useful(note:I did not write any flame material).And the entire board flames me.So unless you wanna continue protecting the bunch of lamers,you should stand up for doodism and go flame them.And I am adding,You FUCKING RP LAMER I SHALL KILL YOUR pixelated sprite!Or you can continue to embrace your feminine side and be a bloody gay.

Ever see trolls on UOSS? by Musashi posted 5/6/99 12:18:35 PM

When is UOE going to be updated? (nt) - Curious
     re: When is UOE going to be updated? (nt) - FUCK YOU CHEATER
     Call a GM and ask him - Raul Pleier
          *laughs* - Laim Guy
     Check www.uoextreme.com - nt
          Thanks (nt) - Curious
     Never - The Last Honest Player [NFT]
     re: When is UOE going to be updated? (nt) - U SUCK
          d00d why so mean? (NT) - Quadre
               He's asking about an evil cheat prog which makes me cry (nt) - U SUCK 2
               Go back to k3wltown loser - Bizzatch
                    Waah! I'm going to get all of Nuker's board to flame here!  You'll be sorry! (NT) - Quadre
                         How weak - Bizzatch

Like a UOE guy doesn't expect to get flamed on UOSS. Like you didn't expect to get flamed on a board which isn't spcifically a PK board by defending k3wld00ds. What a shock eh? Macroing get the same shit now that it's officially evil (after 2 years of it) according to OSI, so everyone wants to come out and be very clear that they and their GM mage water ellie summoners are against macroing. Who gives a rat's ass? Post yourself and make people laugh at the flamers, or try and convert them with good arguments (this may not be an option for you, judging by your writing).

Oh, and my pixelated sprite has macroed more than your pixelated sprite you lame k3wld00d! Bring it on! Um... thou. And RPing does not cause homosexuality. But it might cure it. This is good information for you to have. Never give up hope!  We're rooting for you Quadre! You can LIKE GIRLS again!

re: Ever see trolls on UOSS? by Quadre posted 5/7/99 7:25:35 AM

With all the doods and the bizatches in your post I am wondering whether to continue this thread by replying to a guy who needs mental help.Rping does cause homos ask Nuker about a certain rper we know on cats:P And I will repeat that all I said was macroing is pretty useful and the flame return was a challenge for all doods,not to flame them return but to tell them why they are such old fashioned stereo types and please,I can name you at least 10 people on that board who never listen to good arguments.I challenge you to go argue with "Kraven of Catskills" for one.

re: Ever see trolls on UOSS? by Musashi posted 5/7/99 1:01:06 PM

With all the doods and the bizatches in your post I am wondering whether to continue this thread by replying to a guy who needs mental help.

So yer not making a statement protecting KewlDoods anymore? That was a realistic reproduction of a message thread on UOSS. Plenty of oppressed d00ds there to defend, if you haven't abandoned your d00d-protecting mission.

Owell, I can't argue that macroing is not useful, but pleeeease 10 people who will never listen to good arguments? If that was a reason to recruit other people to flame for you I would be sending out mass emails pointing people to UOSS, LOA board, CoB, Warhall, the Dev Board, Designer Dragon's email address, etc. etc. etc.

Besides, you wanted ppl to flame them because they were on a bloody lame rper board. Whatever the reason, it's pretty weak to ask other ppl to flame a board they don't know because someone flamed you on it. Waah.

And I still say RPing does not make people gay, but anyone who named himself "Kraven" might have some issues. In fact, he might be a good person for you to discuss things with. Get in touch with those feelings! 8P

After this, Nuker asked me to stop spamming his board and send me Quadre's ICQ contact info.  Like my ICQ list isn't full enough.  8P  Odd that the webmaster of Nuker's Domain didn't like me flaming on his forum because I had a problem with one of his posters, who was advocating the same thing be done to another board.  Interesting eh?  In any case, I'll be watching my own forum with a hand on the delete key just in case.  8P

5/5/99 - I got some interesting feedback from my rant, and heard some interesting stories.  In light of the information I got, I am now writing a quiz.  There are no prizes at all, except maybe the possibility of me mentioning you on the site somewhere, probably in a derogatory fashion because I couldn't believe how dumb your answers were.  Oh well.  Once again, these questions are awfully inside, so most people won't get them.  Those that do, though, will be filled with such maniacal glee and bloodlust that it will be well worth it all.

QUESTION:  You are in a party of four people in Deceit on the Atlantic shard.  You get attacked by a group of five.  Inexplicably, one of your group decides to hide, and you and your two comrades get killed and looted in the ensuing 5 on 3.  After the fact, the hider explains why she did it... "Well, there was no way we could win, so it was the smart thing to do."  Who uttered this amazing bit of combat logic?

QUESTION:  You are involved in a planned roleplaying event, a battle between two groups where there is no looting allowed, you won't risk your housekeys, you have all the time in the world to prepare, and basically have absolutely nothing to lose.  One of your teammates RUNS AWAY rather than risk no-consequence death.  Who is this valiant warrior?

QUESTION:  Some newbie gets killed near your guild home, and some idiot from your guild decides it's time to practice her magery.  After watching her fizzle An Corp 6 times, you resurrect the poor guy and give him his stuff so he can keep playing.  The GM fizzler yells at you for daring to show her up.  Who is this master of the arcane?

QUESTION:  You get a desperate call from someone to come help them in Hythloth.  You go alone, braving unbelievable danger, and lose a lot of stuff, to find out the person was on some newbie character with no treasure.  Later on, you find yourself in battle against bad odds with this person beside you, and she mutters something about the situation being hopeless and walks away, leaving you to your doom.  Who is this grateful soul?

BONUS QUESTION:  Have you or have you not ever made a secret character for the sole purposes of PKing the answer to all of the questions above?

If you actually know any of these answers, feel free to flame away in my forum.  Hopefully I can get some more stories from jaded players to inculde in further versions of this quiz.

If you have no idea what I'm talking about, but know someone like our mystery guest, and have a funny story about them which doesn't require spell and grammar checks to decipher, send it along.  My mood is most hateful these days.  8P

5/4/99 - This rant page is way out of date.  After seething with jealousy over how cool Lum the Mad's rant page is, I finally feel like updating it by answering some questions people have been pestering me with.

But first... I sent a complaint to OSI today about a counselor.  Normally, paging a GM or asking for support in UO is just beating your head against a rock... nothing good would come of it.  I've also been harassed by a GM before, so I viewed UO GM's kinda like New York City cops when I lived there... always be suspicious.  However, next time I checked my mail, I got a reply from GM Socks, and the infamous GM Iron Will in reply.  I was told the person  I was complaining about was no longer a counselor due to a few reasons, including some of the things I was complaining about.  Now while I think this recent rash of mad bannings from UO (on several very shaky grounds, ranging from unattended macroing to "some people whined that they don't like how you play") is a big mistake, I'm amazed that I'm getting any kind of response at all from OSI support, let alone such quick replies.  Hopefully they'll settle down and find a middle ground before they ban the entire Atlantic shard.

And now, those damn questions.  These are the sorts of things people might ask about if anyone ever read my page and actually wondered what I thought.  I know this is not the case, so it's basically ego stroking for me.

Why did you leave the Lost Order of Akalabeth?

I was going to leave anyway.  To be quite frank, although the LOA was my first guild in UO and there are still some folks in there I like, the organization as a whole was far too annoying.

I entered the Merchant wing with Kagero because it seemed to have the coolest people in our initial analysis, but when you're in the merchant wing nothing good happens.  You are somehow expected to provide material goods for the guild, except that in UO no one needs materials on a guild wide basis.  They either have their mules make stuff for them, trade with friends who have mules who make the stuff, or buy it at vendors who sell things for way cheaper than the ones around the village.  And since in UO nobody EVER needs clothes, the tailoring thing is strictly a money craft.  (Now you can make exceptional leather armor if you really want to spend years sewing hides to go from 72 to GM.)  So every once in a while I'd meet someone from the merchants, give them 10,000 gold, and go back to whatever I was doing.  The gold was always given in the name of the RoM, and who the hell knew what they used it for anyway.  Certainly I never saw anyone get a grant from the guild when their house got looted or when they were PK'ed.  Once in a while something bad would happen to me, and I'd send a message in IRC about being killed ("I'm dead in Pluggers'"... *silence*... "Damn PK's, well you didn't lose much"... *SupaKilla is away (macroing resist)*) or looted ("Hmm, I seem to have lost 500 of each reagent and 12 sets of colored plate"... "Damn looters!  I bet they used UOE!"... "That sucks, I got looted before too, oh well, what's on TV"...) just to see if any sort of offer of support would happen.  Only a few guys helped to defend one of my houses after Kag lost the key to it (again), and most of them were ex-LOA at the time, or on their way out of the guild.

The general attitude of "a roleplaying guild" also tends to bother me.  More on this later.

Most of the time my only contact with the guild was via their IRC channel, and that began to annoy me to no end, not because I really wanted to see anyone in-game, but because the things that would happen in IRC just sucked.  The trash talking was nonstop sometimes, and although I love trash talk when it's funny and somewhat deserved, people with NO FUCKING CLUE  would go on and on about how so-and-so was such a joke (this was made by one of the worst fighters I have ever seen, in reference to one of the top ten PvP players on Atlantic, home of super PvPers), how so-and-so was a whiny kid, when the rumor mongers themselves whined more than anyone when something bad happened to them, how so-and-so was a filthy traitor who gave away precious guild secrets to outsiders (this happened a few times, once to Kagero who had no idea what was going on), etc.  Mentioning that anything was annoying to you earned you the derision and scorn of the "inner circle" of the LOA, so after I pointed out a few things which sucked and they got ignored or talked down, I just said fuck it and left it alone.

Later on, when I went on some missions with people besides Kagero, the ineptness I witnessed amongst members of the "military arms" of the guild, leading to  more needless death and losses than I ever ran into on any trip alone or with Kagero, made me understand those snickerings I heard from other people when they were talking about the LOA in combat.  This was not even in hardcore PvP mind you... this was against MONSTERS and some raggedy thieves.  About the LOA in combat I can say this much... at least they aren't LLTS.  8P

Did that evil Maraxus steal you out of the IRC channel like we know he did?

Umm no.  I was actually planning to just leave LOA and play alone.  Maraxus' invitation was a convenient way to keep in touch with those whom I liked, and after seeing how the LOA was whining and bitching and backstabbing those who chose to leave in IRC and email, my own decision was made that much faster.  Thanks for helping me decide!

Why did you leave Lost Souls?

I didn't.  The thing about Lost Souls was we were all pretty much sick of UO anyway, and just hung out to talk about whatever was going on.  The guild kinda dissolved away when Maraxus fell for a chick and some of us stopped playing on Atlantic and took up on Hokuto.  Maraxus went crazy one day and declared LS dissolved when he felt everyone was abandoning him; some believed him and took off their LS tags, some didn't give a shit and kept them on.  I didn't give a shit.

Are you a k3wld00d or a roleplayer?

Dunno.  k3wld00ds tend to be distasteful just because the majority of them are immature posers, although I gotta admit d00dspeak is pretty contagious.  Roleplayers, as the term is used in UO, tend to be annoying whiners who break character as soon as something goes against them and make up bad grammar as they go to simulate Elizabethan dialects.  So which category I fall under depends on what annoying thing I'm doing at the moment.

What's your problem with roleplayers?

Because 95% of them DON'T ROLEPLAY.  This is a loooong issue, but in a nutshell, roleplaying = acting, most roleplayers = shitty actors.  Most of the self-proclaimed roleplayers I have met really don't have any sort of character concept at all, just some sort of hazy Tim Hildebrandt-ish idea of a heroic guy or Boris Vallejo-esque hot girl in bronze nipple guards who walks around and is admired by everyone and has some sort of great destiny, which is probably to one day graduate high school.  However, soon as something happens against them, out of character we come... "U USE UOE I BET"... "im calling a gm u cheater"... "this sux i lost conn"... I have met some pretty good roleplayers on Catskills, but they tend to dislike anyone who doesn't roleplay to their standards of what they think roleplaying is.  Come to think of it, that's the case on all shards.

Most of the guys whom I would say are decent roleplayers are usually disliked by other, larger groups of bad roleplayers.  Some of the great roleplayers I remember include Pot Sage, a green-wearing hippy cult leader who did nothing but hold huge parties and pretend to smoke bowls of lettuce, and Magius, the leader of the Silken Dagger who tried to kill me once and slaughtered tons of LOA with adept magery, staying in character every damn second I saw him.  Ibn Shaun is purportedly a great roleplayer too, but I only met him once, so I can't say.

What's your problem with k3wld00ds?

Because people who are consistently k3wl are usually morons.  There's nothing wrong with being a moron, and it doesn't mean I hate people just because they're morons, but there's no reason to hang out with a moron and talk to him for hours every day.  I get bored to tears.

Is there anyone at all in UO that you like as a group?

Hmm...

Why the hell are you still playing UO?

Sappily enough, it's because of the people I play with.  I also happen to think the engine is basically a good one, and I understand it now to the point where it doesn't get in the way too much, clunky as it can be.  I did the Everquest beta, and like most people I know who were in UO and tried EQ, I hated it after a while.  There's just nothing out there, IMHO, which can touch the buggy, laggy, crappy, awkward UO interface.  Of course, as OSI keeps making changes to UO to accomodate whiny fake RPers and try and emulate the features of Everquest I hated, I might wind up just playing Starcraft a lot and waiting for the Asheron's Call beta to start.  I bet that will suck too.