*** Now talking in #tegstorment *** InterviewMu changes topic to '16/f/bi/ez' shit gotta think up some lame questions now *** Tegehel has joined #tegstorment Heya well, so I am here now... hiya gimme a sec, preferences are screwed I'm just looking over my... notes... from the parking lot np *** InterviewMu is now known as Mu *** Mu is now known as Musashi *** Musashi is now known as EvilMu goddamn registered nicks hehhe So what's up, you're working on the weekend? almost there, hold on I hope you're not trying to set up some lame script or something :P *** EvilMu sets mode: +o Tegehel OKAY All away scripts engaged? :P Primary ignition * EvilMu stalls for time while he tries to think of some dumb questions Agrl...another problem...hold on (short to fix) la la la foxed. er.. that is FIxed So, what's your title and fuction over there, and do they really have anything to do with each other? (typical boring ass interview opener) huh...I'm an artist, I guess that would be my title. My function, though, is a tad more complicated... (well, if you bore them in the beginning, chances are they won't read the crap that follows :) I'll put up some nude pics or something to hold their interest As for my function, I'm a 2D illustrator, designer , texture-mapper (?), doodlers (brainstorming sessions) and a 3D animator and modeler...ah! forgot about storyboard and sound designer...and probably some more things, such as "The $#*@!! who always plays his music too loud" or, as my dear friend John says "That freakin' European trash" That pretty much covers it I think... So basically you got suckered into a 2D rendering job, and now everyone foists off all the work on you, is that right? Oh! and I play Tribes Well, when you put it that way, it sounds even more correct. And it's actually true, I was hired as a 2D artist. but I guess I have multitasking capabilities...sorta You think maybe you get all the work because your colleagues hate Europeans? (Yessir, gaming industry interviews like no other.) I think they hate me because they got sucked into WWII because of europeans, then there was Vietnam (same thing) and WWIII will probably be started somewhere in Switzerland, yeah. So it's a historical hate, I understand. I get use to the insults... they = the US You could probably deflect a lot of them by explaining that you're not French, you know. It's true, but I was raised in the French part of CH (that's Switzerland for the erudits, it means, Confederatio Helvetica, it's latin, anyway) and I am actually 1/2 French, so they have it 1/2 right.... and I can't hide my accent... Well, I don't know of a lot of anti-Swiss prejudice. I personally love Teuscher's chocolate, and good wristwatches. "Maurice Chevalier, tralala, and all the stereotypical crap :) I got it just yesterday again actually, heh. (Thanks John) Well, if there's no actualy French people at Turbine to beat on, I suppose you're a convenient substitute. Sure, and the cheese is good too. I guess I am. But who would they ask for translation if I die ? Besides, I'm the only one who can write my TOTD they way I do. No substitute. That would be ...my loss ? aahh crap. Well, if they actually use you for translation, I'd have to say if you get killed, they'd have to fall back on ignoring any French text that comes up, rather than suffering the humiliation of hiring a real French person to read it for them. The TOTD page would be a great loss, but maybe they can take pictures of your dead body or something, sort of a retrospective. Put those up on your old webspace. Probably be able to advertise a lot then. Can't blame them really, French people are hard to get used to sometimes, especially Parisian. Jason, for instance, had an excessively bad experience with French people in France, and you know, they have that reputation... Sure, I'd pose for them Swiss guts, the originals : Only at Turbine~!! I think all of my personal encounters with the French seem to support the popular image of them. I can't say anything really bad about the Swiss, mostly because they all own machineguns. I can't say anything really bad about the Swiss, mostly because they all own machineguns. Funny, because you just need to reverse the situtation and you have the French point of view of a typical American. Not so weird I guess, retrospectively Well, everyone is entitled to their own viewpoint, as long as it's clear that the US is right and everyone else is wrong. :P Mu, that is wise. And they keep the in their house, loaded or at least , with ammo not too far. AND they have the training to use them. And they will. Ahhh nostalgia. Peacekeeping is an art. You got that right, but you know, French Chauvinism is well known and it seems : contagious. Heh, true enough. You know I heard some call-in radio surveys about who the US should use nuclear weapons on? 3 surveys, on 3 different stations, 3 different years, and the #1 answer was always France. If you apply the survey in Europe, you'd get the same result probably...:) or Belgium, it depends... This notion is probably more popular now that the nuclear testing statements came out. Very much so. I assume it also applies to Bio-chemical weapons as well ? Uh, true, but I don't know of any declassified French bioweapons testing recently. Is there something I should know about? Well, look at a French person : there are signs...let me explain rofl You mean that the French accent and body hair proliferation are side-effects of secret engineered viral weapons? It would make sense, I guess. The beret, on their head. It's not a fashion statement, it's protection against acid rain, and heavier-than-air sarin gas and the like. Also , they hide their difformities with a moustache and a accent so heavy that if you approach too close, you get crushed. It's tactical I tell you. we are on the same wavelength it seems :) The world must know. Anyway, there's so many places on the web to get anti-French sentiment (including this site)... how did you get suckered into art as a career choice? my mum use to tell me that when I was a tadpole, at around 2 years of age, the only way to keep me quiet was either to knock me out or to give me a piece of paper and a pencil and I'd be silent for hours. I don't really remember, but I assume I would draw plans of world conquest and evil weapons... I used to do the same. Of course my drawings all sucked. or birds and flowers, perhaps, but I don't think so. I was already...special. Oh don't get me wrong, I was not a Picasso. Actually, let me rephrase that : they probably all looked like Picassos... then....I kept drawing till this day actually Any favorite media you like to use? Pencil, charcoal, acrylics, spraypaint, blood... perhaps it's genetic in me? A favorite media? pencil really. I suck at colors but I force myself to make painting to get better over time. I am, slightly. I like black and white a lot (ink). Most of my art is line oriented, because I like it when it's realistically rendered, even if I have to draw, you know, like...Olthois... I also use snot...rather than blood That's good. Not too many artists have experimented with snot use. Urine is so passe now. Indeed, and it's doesn't filter well Blood is overused in my opinion. Been into computer art long? Since I was perhaps 15 years old? I started drawing with a JOYSTICK (yes, mouse were not available on an Apple IIe). It is quite an experience, I recommend it. It's pixel base and it takes a freakinnnnn' long time to do anything. then, I moved onto mouse and now, my favorite : the pad. You think the pad as it exists now can really approximate the ease of rendering on paper or canvas? Oh! and also, Apples only had 16 colors I think...kinda restricitve...so you get imaginative and you can amaze yourself by creating things that you'd never think of doing. Such ugliness on a 320x256 screen! wow! No, not at all. I don't get the same feeling and on a PC, for instance, even high-end machine, the response is not immediate, so you're really gesturing before you see the result. On a Mac, I was told, it is immediate, so that's a little step closer I would say. How about light pens or touch screens... ever play with those? But, I don't have the same freedom I have when I have a pad of paper that I can rotate, tilt, etc.. and use my finger the way I want. I can duplicate the effects, of course, but it's definitively not "on the go". By the time you figure out all the filters, you forgot your original idea. Nope. I can't say I have. Touch screens, yes, but it was a menu-based demo, not an art program. Light pen I have not touched yet. I played, though, with a headset and 3D (real 3D) proggy that allowed you to carve a piece of virtual wood. Quite cool. But you could only take out, not add. (it was a preview I think) Any rendering gear you prefer over all others? You had a glove to carve actually (DataGlove). and from an exterior point of view, you probably looked like an ass,, heh rendering gear ? Hardware, art software, etc... in case this interview somehow inspires someone to take up rendering (and hating the French) Like, your favorite joysticks for drawing. heh. Well, knowing a Photoshop-like program is a must I would say. You have other progs, like Painter, who are more "art" oriented and have brushes that actually LOOK like real ones, it's amazing. PS cannot do that. Otherwise as for 3D, I would learn the basic on any program because the basic is the same all over, and then it's up to your budget I guess. I like the high-ends ones because of the quality, but the smaller ones (Lightwave, 3D studio) are My favorite joytick needs to have serious force-feedback and at least one button... Force feedback is big in art programs? Say, if you fuck up a line, you get a feeling like a car crashing. Essential. Especially when you have 10 years of Shoot-em-up experience. But seriously, it actually is for a tablet (it's not really force-feedback, it's pressure sensitivity, but heck, you get the point) You're native Swiss? When did you come over here, and in God's name why? Yeah, like that. A better idea would be a helmet feedback where you get your skull crushed when you make a mistake, or an electrical diaper...something to let you know other than visually that something's amiss. You know? Why? well... I was born in Geneva, CH, so yes, I am native. I came in da US coz, huh...youse has better edukashun than in Iourope. The Art colleges are better here, especially in the Animation and Film indutry and that was enough for me to say to my fellow Swiss "Good bye, and kiss my...goodbye"... and I just repeated myself. But, really, colleges are better in certain domains. Now, don't get me started on high-schools here...actually, I might have done OK, since I already know how to shoot a gun... God had nothing to do with it, by the way. Well, that's the most important part of your education. Darwinist, I presume ? Evolution in action baby! Caveat Emptor! Actually I have nothing but contempt for the school system here. Part of that no doubt comes from the fact that I went to a freakin conservatory instead of a real college. Both are totally useless, but at least in a real college you get laid more. That is very true. It's f*ckfest '99. People screw and make weird-ass projects. I am speaking about RISD here. Sometimes, they screw their weird-ass projects too. (figuratively spreaking) You can swear if you want... this is ranter.net. Plus it prevents more respectable sites from ripping off the text. :P yeah, copyright is evil...let's rip everything off...mp3 forever! Wait, I am just shooting myself in the foot here. No! Bad! bad pirates! sit! siiiit! I bet Stratics will try and lay claim to it at some point, so swear a lot to throw Ethos and Wrathgar off base :P heeee? he! heh!! I understand from reading some other uninteresting interview somewhere that Turbine kinda snatched you out of college by mistake. Is that true? I doubt anyone will try to claim that interview as their own. They would be insane It's the other way around actually : You tricked Turbine into hiring you? Good show! I was scheduled to have an interview with the people at Looking Glass, and the secretary who put my name and time down screwed up royally and put me down for the wrong time AND the wrong day. So I got interview by Turbine instead... and I liked what I saw in the office back then, and decided to try to get in. and I got in... How long have you been slaving for Turbine? (don't worry about fragmented answers, I'll doctor it up anyway) Man...err...4+ years now? I don't count the whip-scars anymore... ok Yeah, I guess 4+ years...wow! it's been that long? Having regrets? :P (brb must poison myself) heh! good question actually. Well, I wonder how it would have been to work for Looking Glass, but no, I don't regret having come here. It was a great experience. There are things I'd change, looking back, but overall, I think my goal of working once in my lifetime at least for a game company has been fulfilled... okay Other goals in perspective to accomplish now :) * Tegehel goes for a coke or some bubbly soda So what other fields might you consider in the future? Other game company (but I'll be damn picky now), feature animation studios, effects houses perhaps. Designer for Games or Movies would be awesome. Concept designer, that is On that same note, here's a hypothetical question: say that someone is a career slacker, who just dicks around all day at work and updates a lame website when he feels like it. He likes to sleep in and comes to work late every day. What sort of exciting career opportunities would this person have at Turbine? But who knows what the future will bring? Illustrator for Fantasy would fit me well I think too... ROFL... I think I'm... I mean, such a person would be well-suited for management positions, don't you think? Talent is all. You can dick around as much as you want, but you need to 1) be talented 2) do your job on time 3) be a nerd of some sort (otherwise, you won't fit in) hypothetically : yes :) Right, right, but what if this person's amazing talent is avoiding work? And he has no skills whatsoever in C programing or 3D art or animation or... well, he can overclock a computer. That's valuable, right? Right, right. but perhaps, you should look into...con artistery ? Right, right. but perhaps, you should look into...con artistery ? they make money doing jack, and sometimes, it works. Ah, well, of course I wouldn't know about such things... it's hypothetical really. :P But of course. Ahem... so, any good office gossip to spread around? COme on, you know no one will read this. :P On a side note, this is one weird ass interview...the note has been put aside, let's continue Gossip...gossip...Ah! well, there is that "thing" at coordinate (feel here later, Mu) that is quite ...special...(I wanna see how many people will actually GO there :) I heard that this guy from new Jersey wants to bribe Turbinites to get a special character too, but I can't quite put my finger on who. and well, kill all the others too. That horrible person! What would he have to do to get a hacked character anyway? Not that anyone would really WANT to do that, but just as a point of interest. In theory, and that's hypothetical, of course, because noone would be evil enough to actually try that right? you would have to bribe quite a lot of people, hierarchically. depends what you want to do really. You know, very few people know this, but I've come across a little crumpled piece of paper describing a plot of bribery and murder at Turbine... you think these would be good steps to take to get a hacked character? if you want that special "look", bribe an artist (me, for instance...tegweb@turbinegames.com) and get him, or her, to draw a special texture map. I think it's a start indeed. Subtelty is the key! So, you actually KNOW that malignant character, it seems...ahah! Well, a look would be nice, but let's say the person wants to PK, but naturally doesn't want to work for levels, and let's say this happens at a time when unarmed combat and archery are balanced so people would have to work a little. How could you get, say, a level 1 character with base attribute points of, oh, 1000? theorically ? Sure, totally theoretically. :P This "Katie" person seems to figure into this plot somehow... well, the Weenie team is taking care of the implementation of the stats in general; Stats have been previously assigned by the designers. I'm not sure who I would bribe myself there, but I know you, for instance, already met someone from that elite task force...Katie works there indeed. But the question is : can she be bribed ? shh!... uh, I might have met someone named Katie who would be good to bribe... I'm not sure though, you know I'm not really interested in those things... But, huh...we are speculating, of course Uh, right... speculating... so what sorta things would Katie require to implement a supa-dupa PK character? Cash, political power, love slaves, huge amounts of pure base cocaine... I don't know. A giant Pokemon? Money? a trans-acid-jazzy-funk-upbeat CD collection ? Flower power? a black cadillac with a chauffeur called Alfred? I can get those!... Uh, I mean, of course someone who wanted a hacked character would say that. I understand. You have to play "in role" to feel the character. Do not worry about me, I won't say nuthin.....hmm......money, say you ? I know: a giant mousepad that says " Girlz power " or not. Uh... so anyway (quick subject deflection), there must be some sort of evil overlord at the top of Turbine who you could bribe directly, hoping he would dispense the bribes to his vassals, like an allegiance system. Pokemon mousepad would be easier. :P it would, wouldn't it? Um...bribing the top of the ladder won't work, because they have nothing to do with implementation. No, I would mega-bribe the lead programmer : Chris, and perhaps the tech artist, Jason. That might require some heavy thinking in the bribery domain. Legend speaks of a man named "Booth" who lurks in a sealed room, dispensing unquestionable orders to all those who mistakenly come to work at Turbine after missing an interview with Looking Glass. Could this be one of those two? If you can get huge amount of pure base cocaine, Jason's problem is solved, but as for Chris, I would not know... Booth, yes, we call him Jason "Fridaythe13th" Voorhees here ;) Does he run around in a hockey mask? Sometimes, in the middle of moonless night, you can hear him scream atop the hill, aside the complex. That must do wonders for employee complicity. Does anyone ever dare ask for a raise? Nope, but her carry a bloody bass with him (he's a musician too). I bet the chords are not made of metal, if you see what I'm saying... Raise? well, it's per individual base (correct my english if it's wrong, not sure how to say that) So you don't actually have to go to your boss and ask for a pay increase? well, I think you do. but it's changing now since we;re getting more leaders. The whole structure is reforming, so to speak. You'd think raises would be easy to come by, now that MS is involved with AC. everytime moeny's involved, here or elsewhere, it's hell.. that is the nature of things... Why did turbine get in bed with the evil empire anyway? Deep pocket financing? * EvilMu wonders where the Turbine PR person is during all of this I don't know the background and even if I knew, I could not tell. It's private business. Damn. :P * Tegehel knows they are loading the shotguns OK, so on to some questions that won't get you fired... good idea... (fired upon you mean, heh) Do you play a lot of AC youself, or are you sick of looking at it after drawing it for hundreds of hours a week? heh shotguns...and all...yeah, ok, forget it. I'll put up a chart to explain the pun to some of the slower readers. :P ROFL Wel, I'm definitely not playing as much as I want or imagine I would because I'm always involved in something else to do. Always. And the reason I play Tribes, it's because a game is quick, fast paced and easy, and at the end, I can get back to work or home. Once you start AC, you know, it NEVER ends (that's the point actually). I'm not sick of looking at it, becaus even in a short period of time, I see it evolve from within, which is very exciting. I see more than outsiders will ever see and the changes keep my interest up. Any other games you like personally? I hear Daikatana is going to be released soon. :P I am prejudiced against Daikatana unfortunately, and that has nothing to do with the game, but with Ion Storm's PR ad campaign. What do you think about Killcreek posing nude for Playboy? Think it'll help Daikatana's sales? The "John Romero will make you his bitch" is still stuck on the back of my neck, and I can't shake it. I learned that Romero actually had not much to say in the story (not his choice) but I don't know the real story, really. Although I am pretty liberal, I thought he went too far. Other games? well, Tribes2 :) Team Fortress, and any new SCUMM-based LucastArts ones. I have high regard for most Lucasarts stuff, but I have to admit to having distaste-by-association from Phantom Menace. Killcreek? I don't think anything, really. I think it'll help in one way and not in another. I, personally, won't endorse any of their products because I felt they treated me like I was a fucking piece of shit. (AFTER REALLY. I SHOULD HAVE SAID " WILL IT HELP DAIKATANA;S SALES?....I THINK...etc...) Well, insulting the customers has been around for a long time. I bet you've encountered that yourself, since you've probably had the misfortune of eating in a number of French restaurants. As for the Phantom Menace distate, I heard about the dichotomy in people's expectations and quite frankly, am still wondering what to think of it myself. Ahah! yes, true. but you don't go for the insults (although quite challenging), you go for the food :) I dunno, that French Provincial thing gets old to me after a while... throw some heavy cream into the sauce at the end when you turn the heat off, and voila. On the other hand, speaking of TPM, I read their Art of TPM book (soon to be released) and it's a MASTERPIECE! the artists are fantastic. I must admit I kinda like French toast, though. And I'm occasionally partial to French fries. I guess I can't blast all of French food then. Yes, Mu, buit that's only the provincial part. There is nouvelle cuisine, and also, different regions have different specialties. It's quite ecclectic indeed and very very different, not to mention delicious. If you think that those 2 examples are what qualifies French Food, then, I am at a lost. None of them probably are, actually, heheh. Well, I have sort of a tempered palate, and tend to lean towards things like classic Chinese cooking and Northern Indian/Bengalese cooking, and sushi. I like Trevanian's take on french food as being either the world's best or the world's worst. best from a purely sybaritic point of view, worst from a nutritive. No, mon ami, French food is subtle, different, artistic. Culinary delight, it is, yes! You're speaking French again. Don't make me smack you. :P but, mais voyons! Allons! * EvilMu slaps Tegehel around a bit with a piece of stale French bread Remember, Mu, that what you call foreign food here has been "americanized" and probably doesn't taste or look the same in their original countries. True enough... real Chinese/Hong Kong cuisine is radically different. Japanese food... well, Japan itself is Americanized now. * Tegehel evades the blows, catched the bread, slices it, and share it with Mu. "This is my body"...then smashes Mu's nose with the other half, and tells him "and this blood is my ...err...blood" hehe Dude! You're going to be responsible for another Pearl Harbor if they hear you say that :) although, part of it is true. heh, I've been to Japan 4 times and have Japanese family. Believe me, it's true. Japan is more Americanized than America. Those damn 'ricans...veni, vidi, and not quite vici, but they certainly leave their trace around. Bloody hell! America is like a superior version of Japan now, just because the sushi here is sometime all-you-can-eat. heee.heheh.....sigh What do people eat at Turbine? The office is like in the middle of a chemical plant or something. Not too much choice in dining. Besides that friggin ice cream thing I saw at Jason's page, that is. kinda. We have "famous pizza #3" I think, and a bagel place at about, oh, 3 mn walking. For any signs of civilization, you need a car. And we have what we call the ZachShack That sounds scary. it is Hmm, no doubt the lack of nutrition there has had some sort of effect on the design team. Whose idea was it to make archery do 200 damage on a critical hit? That guy must have been eating at the ZachShack. It's where Zach, now gone, used to deposit (literally) all the most inhuman and bad food available on te market. Most of it with 50% extra-greasy super fat and more...cheap and delicious. It definitely affect your breain cells, and intelligent deficiency shows after awhile. brain cell. BRAIN...you see, it's too late for me. and it's intelligence...aaaahh I'm screwed. Heh, between the ZachShack and French bioweapons, there is little hope left for you. I have half a brain left (my Russian heritage, they are immune to radioactivity, after the Tchernobyl thingy, you know) Don't get me started on Russian food. :P because I'm a bit Russian, too. Well, that is, I must confess, and area of expertise that I lack. The food, that is. I have two words for you... raw horsemeat. Someone served it at a party with mostly Russians there, and it was some sort of delicacy or something. It really doesn't taste all that great. Huuuuh! .....hmmm. You know what, though, I had raw elephant...it tastes like chi...nah! Actually it was fucking terrible. Well I've eaten some weird shit... cobra, whale, rattlesnake, etc. Thing is, a lot of these foods are just things you think about and say, why would anyone eat this if there was ANY other food around? I believe you. Although, I like that recipy that has raw beef, eggs and some other things they all mix together...anyway, tastes great. Steak tartar? (maybe a silent e on the end) that's it I'm always curious about food though and I'd love to try anything as long as it doesn't jiggle. Live monkey brains, for instance, I just couldn't I would never order that here. The only way to make it is to take really fresh beef and gring it to order. People here take some fucking hamburger from the store and put it on a plate. gring=grind Live monkey brains are kinda passe. Chilled is more popular. My father once ate a live lobster. I know, the US way : prepacked and frozen. It royally suck, as an European who had real food when he grew up, I can say that. Live lobster? not cooked/boiled ? yikes! Crawled off the plate when he was halfway through the tail. I had the usual, that some people considere here sacrilegeous : Rabbit :) and well, frog's legs, snails, etc...the usual weird French cuisine AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAh! that's horrible. I could not. Poor lobby.... Cannibalism, it is to me...almost I tricked my sister into eating a rabbit in creamed mushroom sauce once. She became vegetarian a little thereafter. You must have quite a impact on your siblings. Well maybe. I only have one, and she is way more evil than I will ever be. My sister is a vet. I wonder if she became a vegetarian as well. I doubt it. An evil sister. Now that's a change. Evil bro is the usual Any idea if weirdass food will make it into the AC final? Say, you're Sho, and you kill a reedshark... can you make sashimi out of it? Or player corpses. Well, I don't know about that part to tell you the truth. I wish you could make Olthoi's Steak grilled with weed-sauce, or Virindi sauteed with onions, but I guess it'll be apples and cheeses, gromit! Corpse. Dismemberment. Death awaits you all, with little tiny......wait,. that has been said before. UO used to allow you to take the leg meat of players you PK's and make jerky out of it. I think removing that feature was the beginning of the end for UO. nevermind. You know, I heard they're briefly coming back toegether Really? I read that somewhere but I can't recall where and why are they doing that a movie perhaps, or a little project... SPeaking of which, what happened to the dorky little movies at the beginning of the AC client? Now there's only the one advertising the Zone, which I think most players despise having to use. I think that if you join Balezheron, you should be allowed to turn dead people and monsters into food...the 13th warrior way! I'm with you there. Ham of Sashi Mu, encumbrance 100 units, restores 0 stamine on use It will change, all in good time. ahaha, 0 stamina. and poison probably From the amount of cigarettes I smoke, most likely deadlier than fugu toxin. not to mention 2 jars of pickles a week Yeah, what was up with that? You got a problem with pickles or something? that must have some effect on your metamorphose, no? I think you just wanted to avoid having me say, "Tegehel Took Mu's Pickle" on the page. Which, of course, I would have done. I have not since I do not need to metamorph/ there! It's a great title, by the way. "The adventure of Mu's Pickle in the lands of Dereth, narrated by Teggy the Bard, squealer of songs" Hmm, maybe I'll steal it. Maybe for my next "wands look like metal dildos" story. Wands, pickles, they all look the same. Which segues nicely into something else... you're thinking of a new game design already, right? me? nah :) Oh come on, everyone is talking about a new entry into the MMORPG field by the creative grease-fried minds at Turbine. (brb, getting more poison) but it's trade secret, I could not, in good conscience, reveal to the world that it would be a great idea to conceive a porn game using and improving the AC engine, now would it ? * Tegehel looks at the wall. The wall looks back at Tegehel. Somewhere, a bird sings. (Haiku) Porno is ideal. Use high polygon models. Make kids masturbate. (Haiku) Well, hypothetically it could be the greatest use of the AC engine to date. I think people are already having cybersex in AC. Hypothetically, yes it would be great. Imagine that: So how would level progression work in a MMORPG based completely around sex? WOuld you be really ugly at level 1? People are naked, male and female of any race, size and sexual preference running in the world of Sexeth. Positions are the key, hum...and the quests would be called "the Dildo of lost light" or so... Yes, you would start REAL butt-ugly If I was playing the game as a male, I thin I'd put all my points into endurance. :P like, hairy and smelly, and you know not too attractive (smelly perhaps, with bad hair) Endurance? heh! I would think we'd have new skills and attributes as well Yeah but... endurance is one of the most important attributes. Or so I' Attractiveness, endurance (yes), size of the sexual organs and chest I would assume, hair lenght and color, etc... ve been told by various women, most of whom were leaving my apartment. I see. Expert, huh? Minuteman, they call you ? Being a minuteman is like a dream to me. I need to learn more about baseball so I can have something to recite to myself while I'm in the act. ... hehe But to come (heh) back to our subject, I'd say it has great potential. Interaction would be awesome and very funny and exciting too/ and you'll also have merchant, and places to go. You see? It's just like a regular RPG. Just like people can roleplay someone who isn't a total geek in AC, I would be able to play someone who was sexually successful in this game. My $10 a month is ready! What sort of trade skills are you considering? Uh, hypothetically, that is. Merchants would sell you toys (dildos, whips, cuffs and leather outfits, condoms, creams, books and sex tricks) and places would be where you could "do it". Say you always wanted to do it in a church? in real life, you couldn't wouldn't but in Cybersexspace, heck! becomes a sexual instituation if people decide that way. Trade skills? help me there (brainstorming) Like a version of alchemy, etc... leatherworking is too obvious. Animal taming :) ROFL Well, you could be a "toy " maker haha, Goats for sale! or having the knowledge of what herbs or weeds to mix to create the perfect "Barry-White Love Potion, Baby" So, how would you gain experience and level? It's not like you're running around killing and robbing shit like in every other MMORPG. or mix sex-enhancing drugs or that allow you to assume superhuman physical positions and perform the ultimate orgasm (which should work like mana, perhaps) No, you'd probably get it by experience in 1) sexual performance 2) finishing quests (find the last virgin in the island, of instance - of course, this one is doomed to failure) 3) finding new treatments, etc... perhaps, every level you gain, you can perform a new position? and experiment with that? You can also play voyeur, or you know, not being physically/directly involved if you really wanted to. or be a Film Director :) Does this mean that you're thinking of implementing a PfP switch? I think the switch should be on all the time. And perhaps, evading some forceful attacks would also be part of the game. Will that be a problem for "roleplayers" who would complain a lot about the PF's? as well as, you know, STDs and things like that you could potentially catch if you're not prepared, strong enough or protected. That's the point of the game, though. If you join, you know there are risks. Well yeah, but people knew that in UO and still complained a lot. Players will always complain about a game that isn't what they think it should be for all people. I mean, if you enter Gangbang-To, chances are that that big hairy guy looking at your ass will probably approach you from any angle at one point, and well, unless you can cut his dick off, you're pretty much "in". But that would be the combat part of the game, you see? There must be way to counter attack if needed Silver chastity belt? Perhaps, if he forced you to go down on him, then, just bite his peter off. Or the belt. The belt could be a powerful incentive to get the key (quest) I'm not sure the gaming public is ready for a multiplayer online game about rough gay sex. :P I'm thinking "traps". Put some weird-ass powder on you and if you are raped, the perpetrator would get whatever that powder does (you are immune to it, of course). STD, or some horrible scratches, whatever... * EvilMu wonders if anyone from Turbine PR is looking over Teg's shoulder while he types this insane shit :P I think people are sexually repressed. The people who are conservative in real life would be the worst perverse in this game, fucking cactii and gangbanging all day long. You remember the complaining about that UO guild who used to PK people and emote *Ass Rape* over the corpse? * Tegehel knows people will think Teg has turned wacko, but Teg also know that this game does has a real potential. Thing is, considering the way that typical players get in MMORPG's, pretty soon this game would turn into a bunch of little kids running around just fucking everyone in sight. How does this affect the appeal to people who would just want to log in and experience some free animal love for a while without paranoia? Yes, I do. The difference, as I see it, is that UO was definitevely NOT about sex. Whereas this game would be. I think to sexually abuse someone in wrong anyway, but if it's in a game in which sex is the game itself, it'd probably be more accepted, although still a poor choice obviously. UO is a medieval RPG, sex has nothing to do with UO. Or should not. I think this game would have a lot of obstacles to overcome in the politically correct US market. to say the least. :P Well, this question can relate to present MMPs. Like in AC now, you have many different players playing very differently : some are annoying and you have to live with them or ignore them. There should be some minimal laws to be respected, I think, and if you do not follow them, the advocate can "castrate" you so that you can't do anything but watch for hours :) like Vitae. heh That game is pure theory and won't make it for years, if it indeed does. But the concept of a sexually free society is appealing to me. Even if virtual. I wonder what Microsoft would think about financing a project like this. :P Abuses are the main problem I can tell you that, even if they won't finance it, some of them WILL play it ;) I know I would, just to see what the fuck everyone was complaining about. :P Indeed. It would be such a great social study of the most primitive human instinct at work. genius! A sexual anarchical microcosm So it is sorta like UO. In short, yes - ROFL But I'll make it more appealing : visually beautiful and with surround sounds and special effects, and the whole shebang! Well, what's the story on AC? Will there be more graphical enhancements before final, or are you pretty much in the "get it to work so we can hit a deadline" mode? Shebang? :P (insert pun explanation chart here) You think you'd get female players into the sex game? Not like many of them play MMORPG's anyway... Most definitely the second option. It's lock (the project) and load (on the shelves) I don't know the percentage of women players really, but I think if you make that game FUN, people will at least try it. Women too. Who said women didn't like sex ? Well some women said that, as they were leaving my apartment... DAMNIT I WANT THE SEX GAME Have you thought of a name for it? Ah! but you see, that sex game would do wonders for you , MU :) Name? not really, no. EverBreast? Sex's Call ? Dominate Online? Ultimatly On ? *** Charlie3 has joined #tegstorment Quite the right moment to join, buddy really sort of... I am always lucky lol Mu can explain if he wants to... sort of, well that doesnt sound too good Charlie3, you ever play online MMORPG's? SexerQuest perhaps ? no, sorry I havent but I do learn quickly We need a name for a... hypothetical multiplayer online role-playing game all about weird sex. hmmm yes, hmmm...:) SexCraft ? Sexual Annihilation ? Fantasy Flight ... Ah! that's not bad... it has the sex AND drug connotation Flights of Fantasy Hmm, dunno, not foul enough. :) glad i could help need it more vulgar Ah! well, he needs more raunchy Bad puns appreciated let me think... Strap-OnCraft ROFL WhoreCraft II LeatherQuest ? HeadHunter II Schwing Commander Lara Crotch and her Boob Raiders Schwing Commander is good Is all this really going on the page? :P OH YEAH! what do you think ? * EvilMu sees Tegehel at the unemployment office :P Hell, I'll print anything. :P POKEMUFF !!!! ROFLMAO THAT's the ONE! Consensus from the LAN room is that you win! *** Charlie3 has left #tegstorment Thanks for playing, Charlie3! I would have too. Poor guy, he must think we're insane. And well, he's right... So... Anything you wish you had time to refine or redo before release? There always is, but is there anything that really bugs you about the state of the product? (I'll move the previous Q about AC up here) * Tegehel thinks Mu should make 2 version of that, a "softcore" and a "hardcore" version, what do you think ? (hold on) Hmm, up to you, I'll send you the raw log when we're done, see what you think. are you going to clear it up a bit ? Well in the final I'll put things in the right order and shit. Content editing, well depends if there's anything you really regret saying. :P I recommend reading the log tomorrow after you get some sleep. You might be shocked. :P To answer the question, I'd say If I could, I'd redo all the creatures...remodel, retexture map and reanimate. But that won't happen. It's purely a fantasy. I know what I said, I'm sober....I think... Are you the guy who is responsible for the new death sounds? well, I made some and implemented them indeed. There were always present, there was just a bug that didn't trigger them properly. Katyara was quite disturbed by the dying drudge sounds. I love them personally. :P didn't like them? They just unsettled her I think. More like a cat dying. I tried to comfort her by telling her thay to get then, Teg got a cat and killed it in the office while recording. Didn't seem to help, though. I can imagine. Well, they did always sound like cats anyways, didn't they ? Tell her the cat didn't suffer. I'm sure she'll read it here, if she doesn't get disgusted by the sex game chat and stops reading. :P * Tegehel just thought that this interview was done on Saturday, not during work time anyway, so he has nothing to fear but fear itself... I think people will get shoked at first, perhaps, but once you know the true nature of the human mind, you know it's almost unavoidable. Sex is part of life and became, somehow Taboo to speak of it. So, why not make a game out of it, make it fun...etc... This society is repressed (not only the US, but almost everywhere really). It's too bad. I agree, I just think the litigious, PC world of modern America would find some way to whine and protest it. Absolutely. But people will always find something to say about anything, be it positive or negative. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one -Clint Eastwood (Dirty Harry I think_ "Dirty" Harry, ehhe True true... By the way you seen the before and after pics of Killcreek? It's always controversial to speak of something that people believe to be a personal issue only (within the couple), but it has become a social issue now, with AIDS and sexual abuses at the office, used as psychological warfare, etc...it just cannot be ignored any longer. No I have not actually. Seems somehow topical. :P Besides, without sex, they wouldn't be here to read that crap, now, would they ? heh somehow... (ill probably move that back to where the killcreek stuff is) I just noticed the link..."asscreek" ??? right there's a funny alternate url for it too which I can't find... or move the killcreek stuff down here, it makes more sense almost http://hey.i.got.a.tit.job.but.now.i.need.herpeshelp.org/~ellis/asscreek/ what does cnw stands for ? Heh... www.cnw.com No clue, probably just the domain providor with herpeshelp.org as an alias You know, that whole sex game thing brings an interesting subect though : people are afraid of 1) change and 2) innovation that's why new products (game for instance) are so popular : it's damn NEW and has never been seen before. Absolutely. WHich is why most games suck these days. All clone games, and usually bad clones. Take the WarCraft approach : Well, you nailed me here. I was goinf to say that exactly. Haha, sorry. :P np... but you see my point It's really true though... most games are cloned from Quake, cloned from Warcraft, or... well, maybe cloned from Mechwarrior, I suppose. Actually, this is good, because it brings up something I forgot about in my haze... is Turbine ready for the customer support nightmare that's sure to come on final? Yes, and now that we have 3 (three!!! only) MMPOG, you can bet that the following ones will have concepts found in UO, EQ and AC (the good ones I hope) but I'm really afraid of another-clone-with-different-content. Innovatgion I say! It will be, I believe a joint effort between MS and Turbine, but I think MS has the big part of the pie in that domain. Yes, I believe they are ready, but frankly I think they don't have a choice: they HAVE to be ready, right ? Well, Origin wasn't ready. It seemed Verant was ready in the beginning but this has changed considerably. I think those are issues important enough that MS and Turbine took them in serious consideration. But I don't know the details, so I'd rather not say something wrong. It's impossible to tell before release anyway, really. However, support is probably the #1 factor in customer loyalty these days. I know it's about #1 or #2 for me. what's the other for you? That's kinda ambiguous... basically, the game has to be "good" somehow. It's sort of an overall evaluation of fun factor, interface, intelligence required, etc. I'd say lack of bugs on release too, but I stick that under support. For instance, I really loved Heavy Gear by Activision. I won't buy shit from Activision now because I have firsthand knowledge of their horrible support and break/fix philosophy. right. Gameplay and fun factor definitely. Since you can't really chose who you're playing with, you're going to have good and bad social experiences, but it can be somehow enhanced by the game, the product itself, then it's a winner. No, never played it. I want to though. * EvilMu prepares a really boring ass story but it can = but if it can AvP is a really great shooter. Single player is amazing, esp. in 32 bit color, and LAN play is fun to a degree, although the multi gets monotonous after a while. But in internet play, my comp would lock after about 3 seconds of logging in. This problem was something I hasd in Q2, and the problem was too many fps on my crazy 3d array. * Tegehel thinks that if we can somehow manage to have Mu and Teg's line be a different color (like on my screen), it'll be even more enjoyable Solution was to limit maxfps to 30 over the net. So, I called Fox and asked them about this, and emailed them as well. Here was their answer: "uh, you can't limit your maxfps in the game, how about you run a lot of programs in the backgrouns while you play to slow down your computer?" ... ...................................no waaaaaaaay ? Needless to say, my faith in Fox Interactive support is somewhat diminished, and this will affect my future purchases. :P I still recommend AvP for single player though. But no way will I ever take multiplayer networking code into consideration should they ever release another game. I can understand. I wonder if the person who helped you didn't really had the tech knowledge though (shouldn't be answering the phone then, I assume) Maybe it was the janitor or something ? Well, the email reply was the same, and they had plenty of time to get "the right guy" for that. Legend has it that the actual coding team barely even talks to Fox, who does the support. I see. Miscommunication. I heard a lot of horror stories of that infamous genre. Same thing with Activision distributing Quake II. Before a friend helped me limit the maxfps, the activision answer was, "Download our patch 3.12!", which was at a time when 3.15 was out. ... Time to update your 3D card, Mu. it's too powerful No, the problem was it was too damn fast for the net. The framerate was causing the client to try and update like 80 times per second. :P or downgrade, really....get a 28.8... Oh, heh :P Bah analog is so bourgeois. The result counts, though. This really isn't much of an "interview" is it? :P If you can get it slow enough ( I can't beleive I have this conversation...most people are dying to get a FASTER connection...and you want to slow down.) Interview? nah. it's more of a casual conversation well..."casual" Well, that was a problem in Heavy Gear too... the slow connection had an advantage over the fast one because of completely shitty networking code. Back to the imaginative design thing... You could always sell the AC engine to unimaginative companies so they can market cheapass clones. That's the id thing these days... why make Quake III a full working game, when you can have a demo of your game engine to show to other companies? Sure, why not? Although I have absolutely no saying in the matter, I'm sure it's always an option. Heffner should buy it I think, because now he has the engine AND the idea. Is that guy even still alive? (and I want a % of it...man the money that's gonna make!!) he must be a tad old now but I think he's still alive, yes or Flint... Hmm... Flint would be a better target though Flint would actually do it... Hefner would try to make it "tasteful" somehow and blow it. he's more hardcore I'd like to see a softcore version though, like a high-end "Leisure suits Larry". HEY! that's an idea!!! Leisure suits Larry Online, in 3D! there you go! Hmm, has potential, and less likely to be banned... very much so. I'd model, animate and texture map :) and, ho! lots of R&D That game would be all about the art. :P LOL OK, some AC shit so real game geeks will find something they can relate to... what's the real target for final now? pretty much actually. Content? sure, quest and law... I'd love to work on the "physic" engine : ) Model animations are EVERYTHING Real target? I don't even know myself. Around Xmas? what do they fans know? I swear, they sometimes seem to know more than I do (and probably do in most cases) What;s the last rumor? follow the yellow rumor road... Current rumor is holiday season 99, so it will work for a month before the servers are found to be Y2K non-compliant. ROFLMAO Oh haha... Shad just asked me if the new game will include "Britishing". I am not familiar with the term...explain please (although I have a slight idea) Ever read http://www.oldmanmurray.com/? sometimes, but not often They have some great Asheron's Call beta chronicles. They're so good they've shamed me into not updating in a while. :P Anyway, the term "Britishing" is from their EQ review... Gotta read them, I JSUT noticed! Where have I been all this time? so, they crammed EQ politely, is that what it means ? Uh, no, here's the excerpt... Sick of UO? Think you could make a quick buck building your character and selling it? Until one of these games has whores you can visit, it will simply not be real world enough for erik. Rebuttal from erik, GED: What the hell are you talking about? The only reason I play UO is for all the "Britishing": paying real world dollars to people for cyber-sex, then player killing them as I climax. That's the only reason anyone plays UO - all the violent sex. Jesus, man, where have you been? I ask myself the same question. Where have I been ? Well, HE'd play the sex game... If you haven't been reading OMM, you've been in the wrong place. :P and so it seems. I will avidly (sp?) read their reviews now... This interview has a funny pace to it... once in a while I try and get back to AC, but then it's like, naw FUCK AC, let's talk more about this sex game! Dude, it's Saturday, it's 23:30 and I'm listening to Acid Jazz...What do you expect ? Gotcha. Lessee... can I have that slacker job? Although, you must admit that it has some (sex) appeal to it, that game.... Job? what job? can you cook Sushi? we need a chef... Can I cook? I invented the concept of the Bacon Blue Cheese Taco! :~/ * Tegehel 's skips a beat * Tegehel 's HEART skips a beat http://www.taco.com/shadwolf/recipe/recipe.html "The resultant foods may not be fit for human consumption." AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAH is that from you really ? Look conspicuously salubrious Well the recipe is mine... the page is Shad's. I haven't tried the dog recipe yet. Butcher and take dog meat and fry in oil,.........That has a very....raw...feeling to it. You'd have to ask Shad about it. He actually ate it. CliveBarkerian I would say was it a Chihuahua ? * EvilMu asks shad heheh : Seeing through time Curry The next best thing to actual time travel. : he says it's a specially bred eating dog, big, like a boxer/great dane. eww.. Death tea, I can relate...Dead dog, nah It would be a big hit at Zach's though I think you might be right. The Tea would be a big hit though, these late nights... You mean, they breed the dog to actually butcher it later ? like we do with pigs or cows ? Shad lives on it. I can only eat a bacon taco about once a month. It has strange effects on your body. I noticed ;p *** Shadwolf has joined #tegstorment I gotta try that blue-cheese bacon taco. Intriguingly salubrious, like I said. What's wrong with eating dog? Hullo This interview will never be done. :P I think not. No worse than eating pussy, is it? Nothing wrong with eating dog, I was just asking if they were breeding the doing like we did with cows and dogs... * EvilMu goes and smokes while Shadwolf takes over for a few :P Yeah, big Great Dane looking beasts. breeding like we do with cows I meant They actually got pissed when I asked if I could order poodle. I hate poodles. LOL - are those dogs actually pets till 1 year old or something and then they kill it ? them Nah, they keep them on farms. Everybody hates poodles (on a sidenote) Will your new game include poodles? Dane Farm? well, that's a new one for me... Well, why not? I want squirrels. Squirrel? Isn't that kind of a tight fit? Ducked-taped hamters, then ? Duck-taped is the correct term I think You loot the corpse of Overzealous. You find a plastic tube and some Duct tape. hehheee Mu will be back - he has to vomit from smoking too fast. Wuss! what kinda shit is he smoking ? Some pansy gourmet cigarrettes Bourgeois! Gimme a Camel, (Hack, sputter)! without filters, I assume ? Filters are for wimps heck, why don't you just eat raw tobacco ? Nah, I had a bad run in with Mint Dip and Everclear. * Tegehel noticed the dialog went rather monolinear suddenly I can imagine. Yes. I think I'll pass. Goddamnit they are NOT pansy cigarettes! * Shadwolf is NOT one of them Bilinear types - strictly women for me! Are you the person accompagnying Mu on his trip to whatever last weekend ? (Shad) No - that was someone else * Tegehel looks at Shadwolf with indifference. Then, he looks at the wall. Outside, a bird drops dead (Haiku) Max Longstreet, who is now writing for metsclubhouse.com, a site which I occasionally post fake messages about gay sex with baseball players on Though I may grab some curry and go there. the time-curry recipe. Ingenious Does it work ? I've been eating it for years, I can attest to its effectiveness If you put enough peppers in it it does. Where are thou, EvilMu? what land, what time, what dimension ? Well, I dwell in all places, see all things. However, I'm currently in Shad's LAN party room which is covered with a number of dangerous obstacles, the carcasses of lame computers past. So, are you guys fighting over the keyboard or are you using 2 different machines ? I'm on my old throwaway P200... Shad is on some POS Cyrix laptop he built out of cereal boxes or something. That dwell in all places and see all things reminisces me of Cthulhu for some reasons. The name EvilMu too... Nah, we got all kindsa computers here - some even work. Abacuses ? An abacus would crash less than the fucking SGI here. Let's not even get into the Sparq. Simpler is better. Cthullu - was that that stuff that was writhing around in that old pizza box I tossed? Damn! they put HW in cereal boxes now? when I was a kid, you were lucky if you goit a plastic ring with crap on it.... A plastic ring with a cap would have better processing power than some of these boxes. Let's try to get back on topic... will AC, or Pokemuff, for that matter, run on a plastic ring with a cap? Cthulhu, had you seen it, you wouldn't be tossing it around like an old pizza box You just pipe down and go back to your, watchamacallit - overdriven machine, boy! but of course * EvilMu notes that Shad is impersonating a New Hamshire tech who believed that all Win95 registry problems are caused by overclocking * Shadwolf Eats elder gods for breakfast - when he's up that earlty. I think the latest requirements are posted somewhere on the zone, no ? that would explain the gases, he? Come on, nobody believes any sort of posted "minimum requirements" anymore. ain't my problem. Zone? You me the "we kicked your game so you could download something you didn't want?" I don't know, actually. I have a p450 and Photoshop is still slow. That's what pisses me off... * EvilMu realizes this interview is never going to be done and will just post the chat log raw on the forum :P Shadwolf, as much as I try to understand, I really can't make any sense of your last sentence... That's okay - my roomate's Indigo just took 10 min to download the Killcreek pictures. No, no that chat is a true piece of entertainment. Let's not trash it. Err, back to topic... you think your credibility in the game dev community will go way down if anyone ever reads this interview? I am not the entire dev team, and besides, I am not Tegehel... If it does hurt your credibility, do you think you have a career in Playgirl? You mean I've been interviewing... an IMPOSTER??? That's a shock! well, I think that people will understand that it's so unofficial that it doesn't matter :) Besides, in the MU.RANTER., people should know what to expect anyways. Playgirl? I don't have the abs, hehhhh hey! it's 00:00 already Well that's true... but do you really want to be dragged down by the site's lameness and inaccessibility to the "mainstream"? You gotta go home or something? no, just noticed. Mainstream? I thought we were the "in" crowd. No, I actually enjoy being able to say those thing in here since I know that people reading any Mu's content already have lower expectations (hee, don't get me wrong - I mean, they expect to hear from thing they wouldn't in a respectable establishment) Besides, I don't care what people think. I am who I am and that's that. Our standards aren't lower - just different.... True, that's what I meant. Not in a pejorative sense at all. MU said the same thing when I asked him why he was wearing that feather boa. I notice your TOTD already skirts the edge of gaming community respectability. You think that this is catching on, and soon every jackass with a site will start to act pissy and mean to me hip? Bastich. :P me hip = be hip huked on tiping I think if every jackass does it without taste, humour and intelligence it's going to sink faster than the Titanic. I don't know if it's catching on, but it seems that people like to read it. It's entertaining (I hope) and on the edge of PCness, while still being respectful of important (personal) issues. I speak what I think is happening sometimes, what my experiences are and my thought of the day (hence the title). I get mostly good feedback actual (actually?) and of course, I have bad and good days in my TOTD I have not gotten any insulting letters as of yet :) Hey, Mu could play a rabbit who cross dresses and tries to seduce young boys. Superguards would then warp in and yell "silly fag, dicks are for chicks!" before killing him. I get arguements sometimes I think you and Mu should start scripting the game... We need Chet's help. http://www.oldmanmurray.com/asheroncall.wc Also, in my TOTD, I try to stay away from the content I find on the other AC site. News are news and I don't feel the need to spread them even more. I try to find issues or weird things to talk about that somehow relate to RPG. Of course a lot of people would PK each other to loot aphrodisiacs and such, so each character would have to start with a newbie condom and tube of KY. That's pretty much the idea, yeah. You start with your basics, and "work" your way up. Then some hacker would come up with a third party macro and take all the fun out of it. very probably Old Man Murray would also be a player, it seems , he ? Well Chet has a beta account. A SuperStud Macro, I'll call it Well of course... see, OMM is an inspiration to game designers everywhere! OMM ? Of course their would be all kinds of wandering monsters - psycho girlfriends, ex boyfriends, etc. DUH! never mind, ignore me there even but of course...pshycho-boyfriend too ". Most of the fan mail begins "You ignorant, stupid fuck". " OMM .He has quite a peculiar translating talent. heh "I consider thee a friend....." Your pass hath failed! LOL ROFL subtle and so true to life... in a sense... Mu, more questions? I am getting a bit tired and have 40 mn to drive till I hit the bed... * EvilMu desperately tries to think of how to turn this mass of text into a real article somehow good luck... LOL - that Mu! What a joker. Welp, ok... any idea when they're fixing archery? :P * Tegehel looks at Shad...then at Mu...then at the wall again. In the distance, the cat's eating the dead bird (haiku) About marketing - The front cover could have a close up of a girl with a VERY surprised look. * EvilMu figures Teg doesn't know about archery fixes Archery is fixed, as for now. I mean. It's always fixed. It might change again for balance issues. People aren't HAPPY with archery ? (ho!) Well, the archers are happy. indeed. But archers in close combats are dead, so it's balanced, no ? Well sorta... but when a friend of mine who has a 26th level fighter type makes an archer who kills more shit at 12th level, and faster... something might be amiss. You have friends? I went on a trip with a 6th level archer who was dropping crazy shit in about 4 seconds. Not after this interview gets out. :P I see your point. Welps, the answer is : I don't deal with that and I don't really follow EVERY change they make, so... Friends....sigh.... OK, I'll ask that of someone else if I can corner them for pointless IRC. :P Any last thought, plugs, messages, haikus? righto. Tech questions are jason's ability really. Well, I raw version would be nice before approval, since my sobriety is questionable at this hours and I will probably mirror that chat on my site if you don't mind, with a HUGE disclaimer beforehand. I gotta check the validity of the tech answers before releasing them. I can get shit if I spread wrong rumors. Sure no prob. I'll send the raw log tonight. k how much are you going to clean up ? (if anything) ? No poignant quotes to close on? LOL I am thinking...I am thinking Well, putting shit in a coherent order and typos. He don't know Mu, do he? I know Mu and Coherent don't work together No that's C. Dalton, or Henry the Insane, or... well any one of a number of people. I kinda like the pace of the chat, though. The constant change of subject is interesting... He tends to post things in their entirety, yet people still claim they were taken out of context. People often do that, yes. Well yeah, they do :P "I'm gonna sue you for uh posting my exact words I put on a public forum!" well, what can I say as a final closing word...I don't know Well, I like things to be interesting to read, rather than super-focused Good enough for me. :P Another haiku? okay * EvilMu says, Killcreek's breats are large, yet daikatana still sucks, give up Romero err, "breasts" * Tegehel has answered ludicrously. Shadwolf ate a spoonful of curry. Mu eats the cat who ate the bird. (haiku) * EvilMu claps OK, I'll send it... tegweb@turbinegames.com? and Shad eats the dog. yes, please too many lines :P * Shadwolf Burps. that was the conclusion... Why'd Mu get to eat the pussy? I'm a beta tester :P actually, Mu, why don't you send me the original and YOUR version as well, okay ? Well my ver won't be done for a bit... I'll probably wind up editing tomorrow and Monday. I'll send you an unposted URL for that. and he has the @ before his name... okau y thanks dude, take care same here. nice talking to you both. l8r d00d aye! [logoff] *** Tegehel has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) * Shadwolf puts on his funny hat and bows to Max.